Toli Sous le Manguier

@ ceux qui vivent aus states.

l'un de vous pourait-il m'éclairer sur les origines d'un certain barrick

obama, senateur de l'illinois. il fait beaucoup parler de lui en ces

moment d' après un sujet que france info lui a consacré cette semaine.

je sais que nous parlons plutot foot sur notre toli. c'est juste question

d'info. merci d'avance

salutaions @ tous

@ Bono
d'accord avec toi sur presque toute la ligne. Olembe sur le terrain pendant que Atouba et Tchato sont au banc, il y a quelques chose de pas correct. Olembe n'est plus que l'ombre de ce qu'on a deja vu au mondial 98 par ex., et sa contribution tant defensive qu'offensive est largement discutable. La nat n'est pas une place pour joeurs transparents. Une combinaison Wome - Tchato ou Wome - Atouba serait bien plus productive.

Apres Olembe, mon second point de faiblesse a toujours ete Angwa. Defensivement il est impecable, je n'ai pas souvenir de quelqu'un le passant balle-au-pied. Meme en championnat de france pour les 2-3 matches de Lille que j'ai regarde l'annee derniere. Mais malgre sa volonte, sa contribution offensive est petite et limite dans la variation. Or le football moderne se joue avec des lato tres a l'aise avec le ballon, ce qui n'est pas la force de notre gars. Sa grande qualite de defenseur lui vaut bien une place en nat, mais comme titus, je ne suis pas sur.
King Malaxe

@ Tous
Sorry tolieurs, this one is bit far from soccer, but too nice not to be shared. L'arroseur refuse l'eau de l'arrosoir ? C'est toujours bien quand c'est Pernod Ricard qui avale a grosse bouchee en Angleterre, ou les reseaux francafique mette l'Afrique sous la coupe, toute la France acclame. Mais quand vient leur tour de se faire avaler, on dirait que la regle ne s'applique que dans le terrain adverse. Minalmi, vivement que Pepsi laisse passer la tempete et achete cette histoire la.
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French fear eye of 'ogre' is on Danone

By Thomas Fuller International Herald Tribune

THURSDAY, JULY 21, 2005


PARIS Danone, a company founded more than eight decades ago in Barcelona by a Greek-born olive oil merchant whose family moved to France, then the United States and then back to Europe, is, needless to say, a multinational corporation par excellence.

But in France this week, the maker of yogurt and Alpine mineral water is being described as a national icon, a treasure that must remain French-owned.

Rumors have swirled around the Paris financial markets for the past two weeks that PepsiCo, the American food and beverage giant, is considering a hostile takeover of Danone.

None of these rumors have been substantiated, but Danone's stock has soared to 15-year highs. And the French political establishment has gone into overdrive to declare its hostility to the hypothetical bid from what Le Figaro, the French daily, described as the "American ogre."

The issue even rose Wednesday to the level of the prime minister. Dominique de Villepin told a news conference that, while he did not want to comment on market rumors, he had called Danone's chief executive, Franck Riboud, to assure him of the government's support in fending off unwanted suitors, Agence-France Presse reported.

"A group like Danone is obviously one of our industrial treasures and we will of course defend the interests of France," de Villepin said.

His involvement illustrates the element of culture war that has arisen in the defense of the company, which sells 1.5 billion bottles of mineral water a year and has nearly 20 percent of the world market for fresh milk. It is also one more example of the backlash that globalization still engenders, coming after Italy's efforts to keep the Dutch and Spanish from buying their banks and British resistance to German bids for the London Stock Exchange.

Such sentiments are especially strong in France.

"The French in general have a very bad image of American multinationals," said Pierre Labasse, co-author of a book about the company, "Memory of Danone," published in 2003.

Big American companies are considered "soulless, only interested in making money, the very incarnation of worse aspects of globalization," Labasse said.

The French public, he said, would be much happier to see a company like Nestlé, which is based in Switzerland, take over Danone.

Wounded by the loss to London of the 2012 Olympic games and wobbling politically after voters rejected the European constitution in May, French politicians have rallied around Danone as a national cause, a battle between Danone's leading brand, Evian water, and the maker of the sweet fizzy cola some French derisively call American Champagne.

The first politician to speak out was Patrick Ollier, a member of the French ruling party and president of the commission on economic affairs in the National Assembly. Ollier said on Tuesday that he was "very worried to imagine" that Danone could "fall under the domination of Pepsi-Cola."

On Wednesday, Jean-Louis Borloo, the minister for employment, called Danone "more than just a jewel." Danone, he said, is important to French farmers who sell their milk to the company and to the small and medium-size companies that do business with it. The government, he said, "would do everything to oppose a hostile takeover."

Financial analysts say there is little that Danone, a publicly traded company, could do to deter a hostile takeover bid, if there were one.

But executives close to both companies doubt that Pepsi would launch a hostile bid for Danone. An executive close to Pepsi said the company has looked at the idea of a bid for Danone "many times over the years."

"Something may happen, it may not," the executive said, but any approach is expected to take months.

Some bankers who specialize in consumer company deals speculated that Danone leaked the talk of takeovers to get a bidding war going for the company, hoping to flush out Nestlé and other big food companies that are likely buyers - or to increase its own stock price, giving it better leverage to make acquisitions itself.

A spokesman for Danone declined to comment. A spokesman for PepsiCo also declined to comment on the prospects for the bid, The Associated Press reported.

Whatever the case, the political rhetoric that portrays Danone as a company wrapped in the tricolor of the French flag does not quite jibe with the company's history. Danone was founded in Spain in 1919 by Isaac Carasso, who had spent his early years in what is now Greece. Carasso perfected the first industrial process for making yogurt, mixing modern science with traditional Greek recipes.

Ten years later his son, Daniel, moved to France, where Isaac Carasso died. As a Jew in Nazi-occupied France, Daniel Carasso entrusted control of the company to friends and fled to the United States, where he continued to sell yogurt but Americanized the name to Dannon, according to the company's Web site.

Carasso returned to Paris in 1951 to revive the European business he had left behind. It was mergers - with Gervais, an industrial cheese maker, in France in 1967, and with BSN, a glass-container and beverages company, in 1973 - that gave the company the cherished French character is has today.

Labasse, the author of the book about Danone, says many French have warm feelings toward Danone because the head of BSN who went on to lead Danone, Antoine Riboud, was respected for his relations with employees and his civic-mindedness. "When you think of Antoine Riboud you think of a civic company, close to the interests of the society and environment," Labasse said. "He was seen as keeping the interests of his employees at heart."

Riboud died in 2002, having installed his son, Franck, as head of the company.

Daniel Carasso, for his part, is nearing 100 years old. Yogurt, it has been said, helps to prolong life.



Heather Timmons of The New York Times contributed reporting from London.

PARIS Danone, a company founded more than eight decades ago in Barcelona by a Greek-born olive oil merchant whose family moved to France, then the United States and then back to Europe, is, needless to say, a multinational corporation par excellence.

But in France this week, the maker of yogurt and Alpine mineral water is being described as a national icon, a treasure that must remain French-owned.

Rumors have swirled around the Paris financial markets for the past two weeks that PepsiCo, the American food and beverage giant, is considering a hostile takeover of Danone.

None of these rumors have been substantiated, but Danone's stock has soared to 15-year highs. And the French political establishment has gone into overdrive to declare its hostility to the hypothetical bid from what Le Figaro, the French daily, described as the "American ogre."

The issue even rose Wednesday to the level of the prime minister. Dominique de Villepin told a news conference that, while he did not want to comment on market rumors, he had called Danone's chief executive, Franck Riboud, to assure him of the government's support in fending off unwanted suitors, Agence-France Presse reported.

"A group like Danone is obviously one of our industrial treasures and we will of course defend the interests of France," de Villepin said.

His involvement illustrates the element of culture war that has arisen in the defense of the company, which sells 1.5 billion bottles of mineral water a year and has nearly 20 percent of the world market for fresh milk. It is also one more example of the backlash that globalization still engenders, coming after Italy's efforts to keep the Dutch and Spanish from buying their banks and British resistance to German bids for the London Stock Exchange.

Such sentiments are especially strong in France.

"The French in general have a very bad image of American multinationals," said Pierre Labasse, co-author of a book about the company, "Memory of Danone," published in 2003.

Big American companies are considered "soulless, only interested in making money, the very incarnation of worse aspects of globalization," Labasse said.

The French public, he said, would be much happier to see a company like Nestlé, which is based in Switzerland, take over Danone.

Wounded by the loss to London of the 2012 Olympic games and wobbling politically after voters rejected the European constitution in May, French politicians have rallied around Danone as a national cause, a battle between Danone's leading brand, Evian water, and the maker of the sweet fizzy cola some French derisively call American Champagne.

The first politician to speak out was Patrick Ollier, a member of the French ruling party and president of the commission on economic affairs in the National Assembly. Ollier said on Tuesday that he was "very worried to imagine" that Danone could "fall under the domination of Pepsi-Cola."

On Wednesday, Jean-Louis Borloo, the minister for employment, called Danone "more than just a jewel." Danone, he said, is important to French farmers who sell their milk to the company and to the small and medium-size companies that do business with it. The government, he said, "would do everything to oppose a hostile takeover."

Financial analysts say there is little that Danone, a publicly traded company, could do to deter a hostile takeover bid, if there were one.

But executives close to both companies doubt that Pepsi would launch a hostile bid for Danone. An executive close to Pepsi said the company has looked at the idea of a bid for Danone "many times over the years."

"Something may happen, it may not," the executive said, but any approach is expected to take months.

Some bankers who specialize in consumer company deals speculated that Danone leaked the talk of takeovers to get a bidding war going for the company, hoping to flush out Nestlé and other big food companies that are likely buyers - or to increase its own stock price, giving it better leverage to make acquisitions itself.

A spokesman for Danone declined to comment. A spokesman for PepsiCo also declined to comment on the prospects for the bid, The Associated Press reported.

Whatever the case, the political rhetoric that portrays Danone as a company wrapped in the tricolor of the French flag does not quite jibe with the company's history. Danone was founded in Spain in 1919 by Isaac Carasso, who had spent his early years in what is now Greece. Carasso perfected the first industrial process for making yogurt, mixing modern science with traditional Greek recipes.

Ten years later his son, Daniel, moved to France, where Isaac Carasso died. As a Jew in Nazi-occupied France, Daniel Carasso entrusted control of the company to friends and fled to the United States, where he continued to sell yogurt but Americanized the name to Dannon, according to the company's Web site.

Carasso returned to Paris in 1951 to revive the European business he had left behind. It was mergers - with Gervais, an industrial cheese maker, in France in 1967, and with BSN, a glass-container and beverages company, in 1973 - that gave the company the cherished French character is has today.

Labasse, the author of the book about Danone, says many French have warm feelings toward Danone because the head of BSN who went on to lead Danone, Antoine Riboud, was respected for his relations with employees and his civic-mindedness. "When you think of Antoine Riboud you think of a civic company, close to the interests of the society and environment," Labasse said. "He was seen as keeping the interests of his employees at heart."

Riboud died in 2002, having installed his son, Franck, as head of the company.

Daniel Carasso, for his part, is nearing 100 years old. Yogurt, it has been said, helps to prolong life.



Heather Timmons of The New York Times contributed reporting from London.

PARIS Danone, a company founded more than eight decades ago in Barcelona by a Greek-born olive oil merchant whose family moved to France, then the United States and then back to Europe, is, needless to say, a multinational corporation par excellence.

But in France this week, the maker of yogurt and Alpine mineral water is being described as a national icon, a treasure that must remain French-owned.

Rumors have swirled around the Paris financial markets for the past two weeks that PepsiCo, the American food and beverage giant, is considering a hostile takeover of Danone.

None of these rumors have been substantiated, but Danone's stock has soared to 15-year highs. And the French political establishment has gone into overdrive to declare its hostility to the hypothetical bid from what Le Figaro, the French daily, described as the "American ogre."

The issue even rose Wednesday to the level of the prime minister. Dominique de Villepin told a news conference that, while he did not want to comment on market rumors, he had called Danone's chief executive, Franck Riboud, to assure him of the government's support in fending off unwanted suitors, Agence-France Presse reported.

"A group like Danone is obviously one of our industrial treasures and we will of course defend the interests of France," de Villepin said.

His involvement illustrates the element of culture war that has arisen in the defense of the company, which sells 1.5 billion bottles of mineral water a year and has nearly 20 percent of the world market for fresh milk. It is also one more example of the backlash that globalization still engenders, coming after Italy's efforts to keep the Dutch and Spanish from buying their banks and British resistance to German bids for the London Stock Exchange.

Such sentiments are especially strong in France.

"The French in general have a very bad image of American multinationals," said Pierre Labasse, co-author of a book about the company, "Memory of Danone," published in 2003.

Big American companies are considered "soulless, only interested in making money, the very incarnation of worse aspects of globalization," Labasse said.

The French public, he said, would be much happier to see a company like Nestlé, which is based in Switzerland, take over Danone.

Wounded by the loss to London of the 2012 Olympic games and wobbling politically after voters rejected the European constitution in May, French politicians have rallied around Danone as a national cause, a battle between Danone's leading brand, Evian water, and the maker of the sweet fizzy cola some French derisively call American Champagne.

The first politician to speak out was Patrick Ollier, a member of the French ruling party and president of the commission on economic affairs in the National Assembly. Ollier said on Tuesday that he was "very worried to imagine" that Danone could "fall under the domination of Pepsi-Cola."

On Wednesday, Jean-Louis Borloo, the minister for employment, called Danone "more than just a jewel." Danone, he said, is important to French farmers who sell their milk to the company and to the small and medium-size companies that do business with it. The government, he said, "would do everything to oppose a hostile takeover."

Financial analysts say there is little that Danone, a publicly traded company, could do to deter a hostile takeover bid, if there were one.

But executives close to both companies doubt that Pepsi would launch a hostile bid for Danone. An executive close to Pepsi said the company has looked at the idea of a bid for Danone "many times over the years."

"Something may happen, it may not," the executive said, but any approach is expected to take months.

Some bankers who specialize in consumer company deals speculated that Danone leaked the talk of takeovers to get a bidding war going for the company, hoping to flush out Nestlé and other big food companies that are likely buyers - or to increase its own stock price, giving it better leverage to make acquisitions itself.

A spokesman for Danone declined to comment. A spokesman for PepsiCo also declined to comment on the prospects for the bid, The Associated Press reported.

Whatever the case, the political rhetoric that portrays Danone as a company wrapped in the tricolor of the French flag does not quite jibe with the company's history. Danone was founded in Spain in 1919 by Isaac Carasso, who had spent his early years in what is now Greece. Carasso perfected the first industrial process for making yogurt, mixing modern science with traditional Greek recipes.

Ten years later his son, Daniel, moved to France, where Isaac Carasso died. As a Jew in Nazi-occupied France, Daniel Carasso entrusted control of the company to friends and fled to the United States, where he continued to sell yogurt but Americanized the name to Dannon, according to the company's Web site.

Carasso returned to Paris in 1951 to revive the European business he had left behind. It was mergers - with Gervais, an industrial cheese maker, in France in 1967, and with BSN, a glass-container and beverages company, in 1973 - that gave the company the cherished French character is has today.

Labasse, the author of the book about Danone, says many French have warm feelings toward Danone because the head of BSN who went on to lead Danone, Antoine Riboud, was respected for his relations with employees and his civic-mindedness. "When you think of Antoine Riboud you think of a civic company, close to the interests of the society and environment," Labasse said. "He was seen as keeping the interests of his employees at heart."

Riboud died in 2002, having installed his son, Franck, as head of the company.

Daniel Carasso, for his part, is nearing 100 years old. Yogurt, it has been said, helps to prolong life.



Heather Timmons of The New York Times contributed reporting from London.

PARIS Danone, a company founded more than eight decades ago in Barcelona by a Greek-born olive oil merchant whose family moved to France, then the United States and then back to Europe, is, needless to say, a multinational corporation par excellence.

But in France this week, the maker of yogurt and Alpine mineral water is being described as a national icon, a treasure that must remain French-owned.

Rumors have swirled around the Paris financial markets for the past two weeks that PepsiCo, the American food and beverage giant, is considering a hostile takeover of Danone.

None of these rumors have been substantiated, but Danone's stock has soared to 15-year highs. And the French political establishment has gone into overdrive to declare its hostility to the hypothetical bid from what Le Figaro, the French daily, described as the "American ogre."

The issue even rose Wednesday to the level of the prime minister. Dominique de Villepin told a news conference that, while he did not want to comment on market rumors, he had called Danone's chief executive, Franck Riboud, to assure him of the government's support in fending off unwanted suitors, Agence-France Presse reported.

"A group like Danone is obviously one of our industrial treasures and we will of course defend the interests of France," de Villepin said.

His involvement illustrates the element of culture war that has arisen in the defense of the company, which sells 1.5 billion bottles of mineral water a year and has nearly 20 percent of the world market for fresh milk. It is also one more example of the backlash that globalization still engenders, coming after Italy's efforts to keep the Dutch and Spanish from buying their banks and British resistance to German bids for the London Stock Exchange.

Such sentiments are especially strong in France.

"The French in general have a very bad image of American

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@ Bono,
Tchato aurait même fait comment pour être dans cette liste des titulaires ? S’il espérait envoyer Womé au banc, c’est loupé.